00:29:04 Tracy Williams-Quiet American Skies program: Hello everyone! 00:29:40 MK: hello! 00:29:52 Sven Brun: No sound? 00:47:33 Eric Conroy: Won't aircraft noise also impact negatively on birds, animals and fish in their lives? 00:50:21 Helen Kirk: Reacted to "Won't aircraft noise…" with 😊 00:57:36 Berthold Fuld: What is "MC" 00:57:40 Fiona Perrott-Humphrey: from Martin Peachey - I very much support monetising impacts. It counters the industry claims for economic benefits. Have you noticed the aviation industry always talks about economic benefits and environmental impacts. Never economic I impacts and environmental disbenefits 00:58:42 Ladislav Mihalcik: Is a person's individual sensitivity to noise and his ability to adapt to the given situation also taken into consideration? 00:58:57 Dorinne Tye: Very much agree with Fiona How come I don't hear much about the priming effect of aircraft noise and it's priming effect? To simply call 'annoyance' feels substantially understated and a reference poor emotional maturity and poor coping skills.https://quietcommunities.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/FINAL-AIRCRAFT-NOISE-IS-A-PUBLIC-HEALTH-PROBLEM_DJ-Fink.pdf 01:03:27 Fiona Perrott-Humphrey: By Martin Peachey - I prefer all aircraft are noisy. But some have become less noisy which is swamped by the increase in the number of aircraft movements 01:05:07 ANNA SERDARI: Reacted to "Is a person's indivi..." with πŸ‘ 01:05:26 Wouter Looman: Schiphol has six runways! 01:05:27 Jamie Banks, Quiet Communities: There are many serious health consequences of chronic sleep disturbance. See https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5449130/ 01:06:14 Elaine Miller: Reacted to "There are many serio..." with πŸ‘ 01:06:30 Michiel van Parreeren: less noisy 01:07:27 Debi’s iPhone: More quiet and emission reduction are speculative. Noise has changed and some emission reduction has been exchanged for others 01:10:15 MK: flight trajectories are a huge factor: there are tens of routes planes can use to approach FCO from the north, but since the most direct one passes over our town, flight controllers simply don't care and make all the planes go down that route 01:10:52 Fiona Perrott-Humphrey: from Martin. I would add a fifth principlw - financial restriction for example charge airlines hihghr 01:11:58 MK: that would be brilliant 01:12:12 MK: also: taxing aircraft fuel 01:12:28 Fiona Perrott-Humphrey: hight landing fees at night 01:12:33 MK: that would contribute to reduce the demand by raising ticket prices 01:13:33 Fiona Perrott-Humphrey: absolutely - Martin 01:14:19 Claude: Reacted to "flight trajectories …" with πŸ‘Œ 01:15:29 Helen Pickering: Reacted to "flight trajectories …" with πŸ‘Œ 01:16:53 MK: speaking of noisy planes, ryanair's 737s should be banned from the skies in all the EU 01:18:57 Fulco van der Veen: Very good presentation. Thank you 01:19:12 MK: thanks for the presentation 01:19:26 ANNA SERDARI: Reacted to "from Martin. I woul..." with πŸ‘ 01:19:49 Elaine Miller: Thank you gentlemen for a great presentation!! 01:24:00 Dominique Lazarski: https://librairie.ademe.fr/air-et-bruit/4815-cout-social-du-bruit-en-france.html 01:24:08 ANNA SERDARI: Very interesting subject! great presentation! 01:25:39 Dominique Lazarski: France had noise's social cost valued. they amount to 147 Bn per year of which 6.1bn come from aviation noise (4.1 bn for CDG Paris airport) 01:25:39 MK: I have to go, sorry! Looking forward to the recording 01:29:41 Dominique Lazarski: re noise reduction. The 88% reduction mentionned, 30dB - that was EPNdB, meaning the addition of 3 noise measurements / so an average of 10dB for each measurement / 50% reduction if you consider what people actually hear 01:34:06 Michiel van Parreeren: Also in an earlier webinar, Finlay Asher, previous working on aircraft engine design at Rolls Royce, explained how it's going to be very though to reduce noise much more. Seemed like there are a few ways to reduce noise or reduce emissions but not both at the same time. 01:38:15 Bob: Very true! 01:38:39 Bob: Less noisy is better indeed! 01:38:40 Jamie Banks, Quiet Communities: I would just add that repeated noise sensitizes the vasculature to damage, therefore elevating the risk of heart and other diseases. 01:39:29 Sven Brun: Noise from airplane is often given as EPNdB. How should this be compared to noise gives as dBA from other transport types? 01:39:39 Wouter Looman: As always, we are now talking about all kinds of perspectives, while the core of the argument was that an integrated approach is needed. That is why calculating a contraction scenario was so interesting. How do we ensure that governments can no longer flee in diversionary maneuvers by going into details? The variables in the scenario are extremely important, but also debatable: time savings are expressed in millions, that is still open to discussion. I look forward to a shrinkage scenario with a 50 percent reduction! That is the only way to achieve real improvement in a densely populated area like Schiphol. 01:39:44 Bob: And - 3 dB(A) is being replaced by 100% more flights! Soft language I call a bunch of lies! 01:40:17 Michiel van Parreeren: I've noticed they're now also saying things like "less noise per passenger". "less fuel consumption per passenger". That's really not interesting at all. It's just more seats but the same noise. 01:40:24 Dominique Lazarski: Reacted to "As always, we are no..." with πŸ‘ 01:40:53 Michiel van Parreeren: Reacted to "As always, we are no..." with πŸ‘ 01:41:02 Berthold Fuld: From ADV I got the estimation that EPnDB is 13 dB higher than dB(A) 01:41:22 Sven Brun: Reacted to "From ADV I got the e..." with πŸ‘πŸ» 01:42:02 Giulio Marsigli: I think that we must talk about the dB/dBA in another occasion? Because the topic must be trated in a deeper way. I work with the noise, is my job, but i think we must clarify some concepts 01:42:49 Elaine Miller: Reacted to "I think that we must..." with πŸ‘ 01:42:50 Sven Brun: Reacted to "I think that we must..." with πŸ‘ 01:43:15 Dominique Lazarski: Reacted to "I think that we must..." with πŸ‘ 01:45:58 Matthew Lieber mobile: Thank you, Stefan and Arno, are the pl slideshow presentation and underlying paper available? 01:46:24 Fulco van der Veen: Shorter questions please 01:49:02 Dominique Lazarski: very good point Bertold thank you 01:49:20 Bob: Reacted to "As always, we are no..." with πŸ‘ 01:53:17 Jamie Banks, Quiet Communities: With all due respect to CE Delft, I think that getting economic analyses from health economists would be very helpful. 01:54:58 Jamie Banks, Quiet Communities: Sorry - I have to hop off. 01:55:12 Jamie Banks, Quiet Communities: Thanks everyone for a great presentation and session. 01:55:49 Debi’s iPhone: Reacted to "I think that we must…" with πŸ‘ 01:56:19 Fiona Perrott-Humphrey: and Hea 01:57:55 Sandra Miranda - ZERO: Thank you.for the presentation. Could you share it with us? Thanks 02:00:28 Debi’s iPhone: There are overlapping health effects of both noise and emissions to heart, brain, metabolic systems 02:00:30 Dorinne Tye: Thank you for your advocacy, hard work on this painful subject, informative study and presentation! 02:00:57 Debi’s iPhone: Thanks so much for this good presentation! 02:01:39 Ladislav Mihalcik: Thanks